Some people would say, OK, we have a climate crisis, so we’ve got to shift as quickly as possible as we can from fossil fuels to renewable sources of energy, which is right. But somehow the idea that by doing that we can just sort of carry on in the way that we have been otherwise is a misunderstanding. We have a much greater crisis here and what it fundamentally goes back to is this sense of separation from the earth, that we feel our wellbeing, therefore, is separate from the wellbeing of the earth and that therefore we can kind of exploit it and use it in any way we want. I think we can understand the ecological crisis as a kind of the karma built into that way of relating and exploiting the earth. The other really important thing, which I end up talking about more often, is I think Buddhism has this idea of the bodhisattva path, the idea that it’s not simply that we want to become awakened simply for our own benefit, but much more so that we want to awaken in order to be a service to everyone. 

david loy, conscient podcast, april 15, 2021

David Loy is a professor, writer and Zen teacher in the Sanbo Zen tradition of Japanese Zen Buddhism. He finished the formal koan curriculum in 1988 and was given the dharma name Tetsu’un “Wisdom cloud.” He is a prolific author, whose essays and books have been translated into many languages. His articles appear regularly in the pages of major journals such as Tikkun and Buddhist magazines including Tricycle, Lion’s Roar, and Buddhadharma, as well as in a variety of scholarly journals. Many of his writings, as well as audio and video talks and interviews, are available on his web site. David lectures nationally and internationally on various topics, focusing primarily on the encounter between Buddhism and modernity: what each can learn from the other. He is especially concerned about social and ecological issues. David is a founding member of the Rocky Mountain Ecodharma Retreat Center, near Boulder, Colarado. 

My first point of contact with David’s work was his 2019 book Ecodharma: Buddhist Teachings for the Ecological Crisis. This publication affected me deeply and opened me to me to new perceptive on the climate emergency and on my own zen practice. I was honoured when David kindly accepted to speak with me on April 15, 2021 from his home in Colorado. 

David and I exchanged on a wide range of issues including the bodhisattva path, the role of storytelling, nonduality, interdependence and the notion of ‘hope’ through a Buddhist lens.

As I am doing with all episodes in season 2, I integrated excerpts from e19 reality into this episode as interludes.

I would like to thank David for taking the time to speak with me, for sharing his deep knowledge of Buddhism and for his vision of how the bodhisattva path can play a larger role in the climate emergency. 

For more information on David’s work, see https://www.davidloy.org/. 

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e29 loy (traduction)

Certains diront que nous sommes confrontés à une crise climatique et que nous devons passer le plus rapidement possible des combustibles fossiles aux sources d’énergie renouvelables, ce qui est juste. Mais l’idée qu’en faisant cela, nous pouvons simplement continuer comme nous l’avons fait jusqu’à présent est un malentendu. Nous sommes confrontés à une crise bien plus grave, et ce qui en ressort fondamentalement, c’est ce sentiment de séparation d’avec la terre, le sentiment que notre bien-être est séparé du bien-être de la terre et que nous pouvons donc l’exploiter et l’utiliser comme bon nous semble. Je pense que nous pouvons comprendre la crise écologique comme une sorte de karma construit dans cette façon de se rapporter à la terre et de l’exploiter. L’autre chose vraiment importante, dont je finis par parler plus souvent, c’est que je pense que le bouddhisme a cette idée de la voie du bodhisattva, l’idée que nous ne voulons pas simplement nous éveiller pour notre propre bénéfice, mais bien plus que nous voulons nous éveiller afin de rendre service à tout le monde. 

david loy, conscient podcast, 15 avril, 2021

David Loy est professeur, écrivain et enseignant zen dans la tradition zen Sanbo du bouddhisme zen japonais. Il a terminé le cursus formel des koan en 1988 et a reçu le nom de dharma Tetsu’un â€œWisdom cloud.” (nuage de sagesse). Il est un auteur prolifique, dont les essais et les livres ont été traduits dans de nombreuses langues. Ses articles paraissent régulièrement dans les pages de grandes revues comme Tikkun et de magazines bouddhistes comme Tricycle, Lion’s Roar et Buddhadharma, ainsi que dans diverses revues savantes. Un grand nombre de ses écrits, ainsi que des conférences et des entretiens audio et vidéo, sont disponibles sur son site Web. David donne des conférences nationales et internationales sur divers sujets, en se concentrant principalement sur la rencontre entre le bouddhisme et la modernité : ce que chacun peut apprendre de l’autre. Il est particulièrement préoccupé par les questions sociales et écologiques. David est un membre fondateur du Rocky Mountain Ecodharma Retreat Center, près de Boulder, dans le Colorado. 

Mon premier contact avec le travail de David a été son livre Ecodharma : Buddhist Teachings for the Ecological Crisis, publié en 2019. Cette publication m’a profondément affecté et m’a ouvert à de nouvelles perceptions sur l’urgence climatique et sur ma propre pratique zen. J’ai été honoré lorsque David a gentiment accepté de s’entretenir avec moi le 15 avril 2021 depuis sa maison du Colorado. 

David et moi avons échangé sur un large éventail de sujets, notamment la voie du bodhisattva, le rôle du conte, la non-dualité, l’interdépendance et la notion d’”espoir”  dans un cadre bouddhiste.

Comme je le fais pour tous les épisodes de la saison 2, j’ai intégré des extraits de la e19 reality dans cet épisode sous forme d’interludes.

Je tiens à remercier David d’avoir pris le temps de s’entretenir avec moi, d’avoir partagé sa profonde connaissance du bouddhisme et sa vision de la manière dont la voie du bodhisattva peut jouer un rôle plus important dans l’urgence climatique. 

Pour plus d’informations sur le travail de David, voir https://www.davidloy.org/ . 

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About the Concient Podcast from Claude Schryer

The conscient podcast / balado conscient is a series of conversations about art, conscience and the ecological crisis. This podcast is bilingual (in either English or French). The language of the guest determines the language of the podcast. Episode notes are translated but not individual interviews.

I started the conscient project in 2020 as a personal learning journey and knowledge sharing exercise. It has been rewarding, and sometimes surprising.

The term ‘conscient’ is defined as ‘being aware of one’s surroundings, thoughts and motivations’. My touchstone for the podcast is episode 1, e01 terrified, based on an essay I wrote in May 2019, where I share my anxiety about the climate crisis and my belief that arts and culture can play a critical role in raising public awareness about environmental issues. The conscient podcast / balado conscient follows up on my http://simplesoundscapes.ca (2016–2019) project: 175, 3-minute audio and video field recordings that explore mindful listening.

Season 1 (May to October 2020) explored how the arts contribute to environmental awareness and action. I produced 3 episodes in French and 15 in English. The episodes cover a wide range of content, including activism, impact measurement, gaming, arts funding, cross-sectoral collaborations, social justice, artistic practices, etc. Episodes 8 to 17 were recorded while I was at the Creative Climate Leadership USA course in Arizona in March 2020 (led by Julie’s Bicycle). Episode 18 is a compilation of highlights from these conversations.

Season 2 (March 2021 – ) explores the concept of reality and is about accepting reality, working through ecological grief and charting a path forward. The first episode of season 2 (e19 reality) mixes quotations from 28 authors with field recordings from simplesoundscapes and from my 1998 soundscape composition, Au dernier vivant les biens. One of my findings from this episode is that ‘I now see, and more importantly, I now feel in my bones, ‘the state of things as they actually exist’, without social filters or unsustainable stories blocking the way’. e19 reality touches upon 7 topics: our perception of reality, the possibility of human extinction, ecological anxiety and ecological grief, hope, arts, storytelling and the wisdom of indigenous cultures. The rest of season 2 features interviews with thought leaders about their responses and reactions to e19 reality.

my professional services

I’ve been retired from the Canada Council for the Arts since September 15, 2020 where I served as a senior strategic advisor in arts granting (2016-2020) and manager of the Inter-Arts Office (1999-2015). My focus in (quasi) retirement is environmental issues within my area of expertise in arts and culture, in particular in acoustic ecology. I’m open to become involved in projects that align with my values and that move forward environmental concerns. Feel free to email me for a conversation : claude@conscient.ca

acknowledgement of eco-responsibility

I acknowledge that the production of the conscient podcast / balado conscient produces carbon. I try to minimize this carbon footprint by being as efficient as possible, including using GreenGeeks as my web server and acquiring carbon offsets for my equipment and travel activities from BullFrog Power and Less.

a word about privilege and bias

While recording episode 19 ‘reality’, I heard elements of ‘privilege’ in my voice that I had not noticed before. It sounded a bit like ‘ecological mansplaining’. I realize that, in spite of good intentions, I need to work my way through issues of privilege (of all kinds) and unconscious bias the way I did through ecological anxiety and grief during the fall of 2020. My re-education is ongoing.

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