Conscient Podcast: é32 tsou

L’engagement des citoyens est nécessaire pour le changement culturel autour des actions climatiques. C’est vraiment un changement culturel dans n’importe quel milieu. Quand on veut faire des grands changements systémiques, il faut changer la culture, et les arts et la culture sont des bons outils pour changer la culture.

shuni tsou, balado conscient, 24 avril, 2021, Ottawa

Shuni Tsou est une fonctionnaire passionnée, spécialisée dans le domaine de la culture, qui trouve la magie des arts dans la nature et les moments ordinaires de la vie. Élevée à Taïwan, Shuni a commencé son voyage à travers le monde en tant que musicienne itinérante à l’âge de 14 ans, s’est plongée dans l’étude des collaborations artistiques interculturelles au Royaume-Uni et aux États-Unis, et a consacré la dernière décennie à la promotion et à la démocratisation des arts au Canada et ailleurs.

J’ai rencontré Shuni lorsqu’elle travaillait au Conseil des arts du Canada en tant qu’agente des politiques et de la planification et agente de programme au Bureau de l’équité. Elle travaille maintenant comme conseillère en diplomatie culturelle à Affaires mondiales Canada. Shuni a un esprit vif et un cœur tendre. Je suis heureux qu’elle ait accepté mon invitation à partager ses réflexions sur notre intérêt commun pour les arts, l’environnement et la justice sociale.

Le samedi 24 avril 2021, dans le parc Richelieu Vanier à Ottawa, Shuni et moi avons échangé sur l’engagement des citoyens, l’action culturelle, la crise écologique, l’éducation artistique, la justice sociale, les changements systémiques, l’équité, etc. 

Je remercie Shuni pour sa générosité, sa sensibilité et son engagement indéfectible envers la culture et l’environnement. 

Vous trouverez de plus amples informations sur Shuni à


é32 tsou (translation)

Citizen engagement is what is needed for cultural change around climate action. It’s really a cultural shift in any setting. When you want to make big systemic changes, you have to change the culture and arts and culture are good tools to change the culture.

shuni tsou, conscient podcast, april 24, 2021, ottawa

Shuni Tsou is a passionate civil servant specialized in the field of culture who finds the magic of arts in nature and life’s ordinary moments. Brought up in Taiwan, Shuni started her globe hopping journey as a touring musician at age 14, delved into the studies of intercultural arts collaborations in the UK and US, and dedicated the past decade in promoting and democratizing the arts in Canada and beyond. 

I met Shuni while she was at Canada Council for the Arts as Policy and Planning Officer and Program Officer in the Equity Office. She now works as Cultural Diplomacy Advisor at Global Affairs Canada. Shuni has a sharp mind and a kind heart. I was pleased that she accepted my invitation to share her insights about our shared interest for arts, environment, and social justice.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021, in Ottawa’s Richelieu Vanier Park, Shuni and I discussed citizen engagement, cultural action, the ecological crisis, arts education, social justice, systemic change, equity, and more. 

I thank Shuni for her generosity, sensitivity and unwavering commitment to culture and the environment. 

More information about Shuni can be found at

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About the Concient Podcast from Claude Schryer

The conscient podcast / balado conscient is a series of conversations about art, conscience and the ecological crisis. This podcast is bilingual (in either English or French). The language of the guest determines the language of the podcast. Episode notes are translated but not individual interviews.

I started the conscient project in 2020 as a personal learning journey and knowledge sharing exercise. It has been rewarding, and sometimes surprising.

The term ‘conscient’ is defined as ‘being aware of one’s surroundings, thoughts and motivations’. My touchstone for the podcast is episode 1, e01 terrified, based on an essay I wrote in May 2019, where I share my anxiety about the climate crisis and my belief that arts and culture can play a critical role in raising public awareness about environmental issues. The conscient podcast / balado conscient follows up on my (2016–2019) project: 175, 3-minute audio and video field recordings that explore mindful listening.

Season 1 (May to October 2020) explored how the arts contribute to environmental awareness and action. I produced 3 episodes in French and 15 in English. The episodes cover a wide range of content, including activism, impact measurement, gaming, arts funding, cross-sectoral collaborations, social justice, artistic practices, etc. Episodes 8 to 17 were recorded while I was at the Creative Climate Leadership USA course in Arizona in March 2020 (led by Julie’s Bicycle). Episode 18 is a compilation of highlights from these conversations.

Season 2 (March 2021 – ) explores the concept of reality and is about accepting reality, working through ecological grief and charting a path forward. The first episode of season 2 (e19 reality) mixes quotations from 28 authors with field recordings from simplesoundscapes and from my 1998 soundscape composition, Au dernier vivant les biens. One of my findings from this episode is that ‘I now see, and more importantly, I now feel in my bones, ‘the state of things as they actually exist’, without social filters or unsustainable stories blocking the way’. e19 reality touches upon 7 topics: our perception of reality, the possibility of human extinction, ecological anxiety and ecological grief, hope, arts, storytelling and the wisdom of indigenous cultures. The rest of season 2 features interviews with thought leaders about their responses and reactions to e19 reality.

my professional services

I’ve been retired from the Canada Council for the Arts since September 15, 2020 where I served as a senior strategic advisor in arts granting (2016-2020) and manager of the Inter-Arts Office (1999-2015). My focus in (quasi) retirement is environmental issues within my area of expertise in arts and culture, in particular in acoustic ecology. I’m open to become involved in projects that align with my values and that move forward environmental concerns. Feel free to email me for a conversation :

acknowledgement of eco-responsibility

I acknowledge that the production of the conscient podcast / balado conscient produces carbon. I try to minimize this carbon footprint by being as efficient as possible, including using GreenGeeks as my web server and acquiring carbon offsets for my equipment and travel activities from BullFrog Power and Less.

a word about privilege and bias

While recording episode 19 ‘reality’, I heard elements of ‘privilege’ in my voice that I had not noticed before. It sounded a bit like ‘ecological mansplaining’. I realize that, in spite of good intentions, I need to work my way through issues of privilege (of all kinds) and unconscious bias the way I did through ecological anxiety and grief during the fall of 2020. My re-education is ongoing.

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